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< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 03-Apr-00 >
Finally a
Corzine supporter admitted he would pay for his programs by
TAXING the companies! Now, please explain why the companies
will not pass that tax along to us. Corzine economics: Hide
the screw job being given to the voters, sound like santa
claus. What a pompous ass!
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 04-Apr-00 >
Any answers,
Corzine? How would you prevent the taxes from being passed on
to consumers?
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >Corzine Fan!
< Date: 04-Apr-00 >
It doesn't
matter either way. Don't you remember a few years ago how the
media reported that the big corporations were downsizing while
their executives were giving themselves huge raises? Who paid
for those raises? The customers. So it doesn't matter whether
taxes or corporate downsizing increases prices, they will no
matter what.
With the
invention of HMOs (Healthcare Moneymaking Organizations)
health care has become more and more monopolized, just like
the banking industry. These days, instead of you going to a
doctor for an illness and the insurance company paying for it,
it's become something where you have to choose your primary
doctor, see him first to go to a specialist, and the insurance
company tells you where and when you have procedures done.
Isn't that progress?
Jon Corzine,
despite his links to Union County machine politics, is a man
who speaks his mind and isn't afraid to stick to his
principles. Florio was a consummate politician. As soon as he
raised taxes, he didn't stand up for himself. He let his gun
control bill get so watered down it does practically nothing.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >Corzine Fan!
< Date: 04-Apr-00 >
It doesn't
matter either way. Don't you remember a few years ago how the
media reported that the big corporations were downsizing while
their executives were giving themselves huge raises? Who paid
for those raises? The customers. So it doesn't matter whether
taxes or corporate downsizing increases prices, they will no
matter what.
With the
invention of HMOs (Healthcare Moneymaking Organizations)
health care has become more and more monopolized, just like
the banking industry. These days, instead of you going to a
doctor for an illness and the insurance company paying for it,
it's become something where you have to choose your primary
doctor, see him first to go to a specialist, and the insurance
company tells you where and when you have procedures done.
Isn't that progress?
Jon Corzine,
despite his links to Union County machine politics, is a man
who speaks his mind and isn't afraid to stick to his
principles. Florio was a consummate politician. As soon as he
raised taxes, he didn't stand up for himself. He let his gun
control bill get so watered down it does practically nothing.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 04-Apr-00 >
So government
runs things better? Gimme a break! How naive are these Corzine
lefties?? You think after Whitman, Corzine and every federal
representative get finished giving their friends jobs in the
new government health agency that it will run any different
than New Jersey Transit or Washington DC?? You are DUMB.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >Tony Soprano
< Date: 04-Apr-00 >
Doria and
Torricelli hmmmmm what a duo just like Abbott &
Costello.........any one with 1/2 a brain knows why they
support the anti-italian american Corzine, its easy MONEY
talks and Bullchit walks lets see what the ELEC reports show
how much he paid for so called support sure its easy to get
suport when you pay for it sure looks like people are backing
you but when the dust setrles its his cool hard cash that
bought support Anti-Italian Corzine pays guys like Doria,
Torricelli and some individuals in different counties and its
up to them to GOTV for Corzine. Corzine will be as honest as
Jon De Lorean and we know where he is these days...........Corzine
should and must resign NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 05-Apr-00 >
So it is WRONG
for HMO execs to take big bonuses and pass it on to consumers,
but it is RIGHT to screw everyone by imposing a government
health bureaucracy, upping taxes and giving jobs to the
Democrats' friends? Corzine is another yuppie spoiled brat who
probably still listens to Crosby, Stills and Nash and gets a
boner.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 05-Apr-00 >
Yuppie spoiled
brat huh? The guy grew up on a farm anw worked construction to
get through college and I am sure busted his ass on Wall
Street to make his money. As for the Italian American comments
guess whose mother lives in Bloomfield and who use to live in
Bloomfield, thats right Michael Cino. Guess who else lives and
works there, none other than our good Dr. Alfano who says he
never met Michale Cino----what a crock of sh--. People who
know Jon know he is not biased in any way towards any
ethnicity. This whole thing was set up by Florio and his
Bloomfield cronies. Its sickening as a Democrat to see other
"Democrats" screwing each other but that seems to be
Florio's way these days. Republicans hate Corzine because the
would LOVE to see Florio as the nominee so they can take the
seat. Not going to happen!!! Real Democrats won't let it.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 05-Apr-00 >
Corzine's
solution to health care is more bureaucrats and higher taxes.
Don't go making personal attacks to cover that fact. You are
trying to escape admitting that you would CREATE A HUGE
BUREAUCRACY FUNDED BY HIGHER TAXES AND WITH EVEN MORE
GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS! That is anti-freedom. In Britain, they
have socialized medicine, but only for the non-wealthy. They
shut people off dialysis at age 65 regardless of survival
potential. Does that sound like government at work? It does to
me. Rich Arabs and rich English come HERE for health care, to
the United States where Corzine the yuppie millionaire says
our health care is broken. Poor Arabs and English get squat.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >Soldier of Fortune to above
< Date: 05-Apr-00 >
You made the
point. The wealthy CAN afford the best doctors, lawyers, etc
money can buy. It's the 20 million who are uninsured, whether
through downsizing or unemployment, who need basic health
care.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 05-Apr-00 >
It was the Blue
Cross/ Blue Shield insurance that started this inflation of
medical costs in the first place in the 1950s. Ever hear of
Medicaide fraud? The doctors and ambulance people
automatically charge the taxpayers for nothing under Medicaide.
Corzine must like that system. He wants more of it. Socialism
is for idiots and con artists. I am not sure which Corzine is,
but either one does not belong in office.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >MEMO TO CORZINE/ FROM THE ITALIAN
COMMUNITY
< Date: 06-Apr-00 >
DROP OUT NOW
BEFORE ITS TOO LATE YOUR MONEY CANNOT AND WILLNOT BUY YOU AN
ELECTED OFFICE THAT YOU ARE UNQUALIFIEDFOR. YOUR FROM THAT MM
BROKERAGE HOUSE GOLDMAN SACKS YOU MADE HOW MANY MILLIONS I
WONDERE IF IT WAS DUE TO INSIDER TRADINGTHE WAY YOU ACT TOWARD
ITALIAN AMERICANS IT MAKES ME WONDER IF YOU ARE SMART OR ARE
NOTHING BUT A THIEF IN THE NIGHT...EOM
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 06-Apr-00 >
Corzine? Hello?
Got an answer? How will you pay for socialized medicine
without SCREWING the same people you claim you will help?
You're a millionaire yuppie who can get the best health care
anywhere you want. Why should we pay for your cronies to run a
bureaucracy? You are out of touch and stupid, Corzine. You are
the new George McGovern. So tell us, how will you bring total
health care without taxing us (Even secretly through
"premiums"), "senator"?
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 15-Apr-00 >
Corzine
supporters run away before answering how their millionaire
phony will pay for nirvana. What a bunch of liars.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >ItalianAmericans against corzine
< Date: 16-Apr-00 >
As a registered
democrat and being of italian maerican ancestory i will be
votoing against the anti italian american corzine and will be
voting for tax and spend florio
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 16-Apr-00 >
Corzine is
outspending Florio. The only way people who hate business can
win elections is to outspend........makes you wonder what they
see is so bad about business. Corzine wants to buy power like
Forbes, only the Democrats are too stupid to flush Corzine as
Republicans did to Forbes. Money is everything, right Corzine?
You are rich and therefore smarter. What a yuppie asshole.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 17-Apr-00 >
Your obviously
partisan attacks are pettty and pathetic--the reason he has
money is because he worked hard. As for being a yuppy, sounds
like an unsuccessful person wishing he had of done better for
him/herself in their own life. Just because you are a pathetic
unsucessful person doesn't mean you should attack someone who
is because he is smarter than you. Get a life
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 17-Apr-00 >
So? The reason
Bill Gates is rich is because he worked hard, and Dems like
Corzine are trying to rip him apart. Wasn't it Ted Kennedy who
used to preach about "obscene profits" the oil
companies were making, while ignoring the "obscene
profits" CBS, NBC, ABC and Ted Turner make? Who is
partisan? BTW, see that the Star Ledger even has to call
Corzine a radical left winger? Another yuppie, still burned
out from Woodstock "Hellllllllpless, helpless, helpless
helpless....."
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 18-Apr-00 >
Woodstock, oh
wait he was working carrying cement to get himself through
school while his parents ran a farm. Don't comment on thing
you don't know anything about. You sound like a Florio person
making things up in a desoerate attempt not to lose. Free
college, free health care and universal education will cost an
arm and a leg but people need help. Besides he will never be
ableto get it through a Repub Congress anyway. The best way to
make our society a better place is to provide the poor with an
education. I can understand your problems with his healthcare
proposals, they are a little stretched but what about
assistance for the poor and elderly? Surely providing this
assistance couldn't be too far fetched even for someone who
seem as jaded as you about Mr. Corzine. You can insult him all
you like but I know him as a person and he is a decent human
being. His stances are ultra liberal, and I am a Democrat. But
his heart is in the right place. What would you or I be doing
if we had his cash? I think it is very honorable to try to
help and I think Jim Florio, should he win this primary, will
lose the general election because of the things he is doing
right now. His campaign is disgusting.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 18-Apr-00 >
Finally! You
admit it will cost an arm and a leg. That makes you more
honest than Corzine, who sidesteps answering any questions
about paying for his kooky programs. Did the Great Society
cure poverty? Then why do you expect universal health scams
run by the government to make health care better?
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >Corzine fan!
< Date: 18-Apr-00 >
My, my, my! So
many attacks! The Florio supporters are focusing on Corzine's
"left-wing" positions (they aren't all that
different from FDR's), saying he's too liberal to be elected.
Well, that's what they said about Paul Wellstone in Wisconsin,
Bernie Sanders in Vermont, Ron Dellums, Maxine Waters and
Barbara Boxer in California, and Governor Jon Kitzhaber in
Oregon. Yet they were all elected and continue to be popular
in their districts.
Yes, Ted Kennedy
did strike out at the profits of the oil industry. There's one
difference, of course: the TV networks don't make their
profits off environmental degradation. The TV networks don't
put drunk anchormen on the air, like the oil industry allowed
a drunken captain to sail the Exxon Valdez.
Did the Great
Society cure poverty? Of course not, but it's better than
doing nothing. Besides, the Great Society programs suffered in
the 1960s as more money was spent on the Vietnam War. Did the
New Deal end the Great Depression? No, World War II did, but
at least the New Deal kept people working and allowed them to
eat.
It would be
wonderful if we could have faith in the conservative dream of
an unrestrained free market providing goods and services and
donating their extra profits to charity to take care of the
poor. But it can't be depended upon! Conservatives have to be
reminded these private companies they worship, up until the
1930s, busted unions, used child labor, had deplorable working
conditions (remember the Triangle Factory fire?), and weren't
known for their humanitarianism ("The Public Be
Damned!" -- Vanderbilt). It took a good dose of
government regulation to remedy many of those problems. I do
trust government, because it's popularly owned.
It comes down to
this. Will Florio beat Corzine? Maybe. Florio certainly has
been in the game longer. But his ideas are about the same as
all the others coming from the Beltway. If Florio shifts his
positions, it will be because of pressure from Corzine
supporters. It takes the chairman of a global company like
Goldman Sachs to actually breathe some new ideas into a bland
politics.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 18-Apr-00 >
Well said!
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >Another Corzine Supporter!
< Date: 18-Apr-00 >
Your Florio
candidate is a loser! He stands for nothing and is completely
washed out! Sure, go ahead and vote for that beloved icon of
yours. YOu will be helping Treffinger get to the Senate. The
Democrats voting for Florio are all employed or connected to
the Treffinger machine. Ask them where they work and whose ass
they kiss.
As to health
coverage, Corzine is not a stupid man. Unlike losers who don't
have a cent, who smoke and eat like pigs, who are responsible
for their own diseased and deformed bodies, he has the
financial acumen to put together a solid plan. Your pathetic
"Marxist" and leftie labels betray your stupidity
and ignorance. That abounds in Bloomfield. Your great champion
of Italian causes, chiropractor Alfano, is never offended when
his great Italian buddies use the "N" word or call
members of other minority groups Spics! I have witness this
behavior first hand. Give me a break! The anti-Italian
"propaganda" is BS concocted by the pathetic Florio
crowd. Go ahead, vote for that loser. That's exactly what a
certain person in town wants so that she can campaign for Mr.
T.
Corzine has the
vote of the young and educated Democrats. They are the future,
not you!
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >Another Corzine Supporter!
< Date: 18-Apr-00 >
Your Florio
candidate is a loser! He stands for nothing and is completely
washed out! Sure, go ahead and vote for that beloved icon of
yours. YOu will be helping Treffinger get to the Senate. The
Democrats voting for Florio are all employed or connected to
the Treffinger machine. Ask them where they work and whose ass
they kiss.
As to health
coverage, Corzine is not a stupid man. Unlike losers who don't
have a cent, who smoke and eat like pigs, who are responsible
for their own diseased and deformed bodies, he has the
financial acumen to put together a solid plan. Your pathetic
"Marxist" and leftie labels betray your stupidity
and ignorance. That abounds in Bloomfield. Your great champion
of Italian causes, chiropractor Alfano, is never offended when
his great Italian buddies use the "N" word or call
members of other minority groups Spics! I have witness this
behavior first hand. Give me a break! The anti-Italian
"propaganda" is BS concocted by the pathetic Florio
crowd. Go ahead, vote for that loser. That's exactly what a
certain person in town wants so that she can campaign for Mr.
T.
Corzine has the
vote of the young and educated Democrats. They are the future,
not you!
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 18-Apr-00 >
Those people who
smoke and eat are "pigs"? My, your love of humanity
astounds me. What will Corzine do, make every Joe Sixpack a
vegetarian? I find it amusing you go from the question of
paying for Corzine's kook plans, and launch a barely coherent
diatribe against companies, "slobs" et al rather
than answer the question: HOW WILL CORZINE PAY FOR THIS? As
for his "solid plan", tell me what is so wrong with
American health care now? All the royalty from other countries
come here for treatment. Britain stops dialysis at age 65,
regardless of whether one could survive longer. Do you want
the government beancounters making such decisions?
Now go ahead,
launch another rabies fit at the Exxon Valdez to avoid facing
reality.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >Corzine speaks, puppetmaster Lesniak
grins.
< Date: 19-Apr-00 >
Corzine stands
out front with impossible proposals that sound like Hubert
Humphrey broadcasting from Paradise, while in the background,
puppetmaster Ray Lesniak grins as he contemplates a new
speed-dial phone number to Washington. Corzine
"stands" for liberalism? Hah! Lesniak stands for his
own power.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 19-Apr-00 >
Lesniak was a
top fundraiser for both Clinton and is now for Gore, you think
he needs another speed dial to Washington, you are such an
idiot. Maybe he is concerned about keeping the seat Democratic
and not watching Florio ruin the party this November.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >Corzine Man
< Date: 19-Apr-00 >
Mr. Corzine has
been married to his childhood sweetheart for over 30 years. He
is a decent, hard-working American, not an opportunist or an
immoral good-for-nothing political hack.
I will take my
chances with Mr Corzine over any unintelligent, immoral party
hack.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 19-Apr-00 >
Did you defend
Clinton during the Lewinsky scandal? Just wondering. If
Clinton's behavior was okay, what difference does Corzine the
leftist's marital situation make? Oh, I forgot, morals come
into play only when handy for Democrat-liberals.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >What does Lesniak stand for?
< Date: 19-Apr-00 >
What does
Lesniak stand for? The Democratic Party? What does Lesniak's
Democratic Party stand for? I'd really like to know. I'm a
Democrat, but I'm little sick of having my candidates
hand-picked for me...& I mean Clinton, Gore, McGreevy,
Corzine etc. ad nauseum. I once saw Lesniak drunk, half-asleep
in a chair at party during the League of Municipalities
convention, with McGreevy kneeling at his feet like the devout
disciple. It was a perfect picture of the Democratic Party in
New Jersey. I wish I'd had a camera but I was too busy
stuffing my pockets with free food. Maybe if I was better
connected I could be stuffing my pockets with state contracts
& do-nothing middle-management jobs.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 19-Apr-00 >
Don't despair,
Corzine wants to set up the largest bureaucracy since the
Pentagon in his free health care scam. Just blow him a kiss
and you'll have a job, pension, Arbor Day off, free
everything! Comrades! TRUE Socialism has arrived! Comrade
Corzine is leading the revolution!
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >Riddle time
< Date: 19-Apr-00 >
Q) Why did
Corzine cross the road?
A) How dare you
question this fine man, you fascist pig!
Q) How many
Corzine supporters does it take to screw a lightbulb?
A) You Florio
people are getting desperate with these unfair and vicious
attacks!
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >Another riddle
< Date: 19-Apr-00 >
Q) If Corzine
leaves New Jersey for Washington on the 3:45 Amtrack
Metroliner going 80 mph, and a labor union representative
leaves Washington with a suitcase full of cash for campaign
contributions to Democrats on the local going 45 mph, when
will the two corrupt jerks pass?
A) We will get
back to you with a position paper after Mr. Corzine is
consulted.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >Italian-american
< Date: 19-Apr-00 >
Any
self-respecting Italian American who is proud of their
heritage will not vote for Corzine! One time is a mistake,
twice is a bias that is slipping out. Good thing we saw it
before it was too late. Vote for Florio!
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >Another Italian American
< Date: 20-Apr-00 >
Any
self-respecting Italian American will not fall for the lies
and accusations of ignorant fools! A vote for Florio is a vote
for Treffinger. Do you want to have more moronic Republicans
in Congress? Just take a look at the leading Candidate for
Presiden. Is that the best you can do? Vote for Corzine if you
value your heritage, Italian or otherwise.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >Another Italian American
< Date: 20-Apr-00 >
Any
self-respecting Italian American will not fall for the lies
and accusations of ignorant fools! A vote for Florio is a vote
for Treffinger. Do you want to have more moronic Republicans
in Congress? Just take a look at the leading Candidate for
Presiden. Is that the best you can do? Vote for Corzine if you
value your heritage, Italian or otherwise.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 20-Apr-00 >
I value my
heritage AND my paycheck. To hell with Corzine and his
socialist medicine. Haven't you idiots learned anything from
the collapse of the Soviet Union? Everything has a price.
Nothing is free. Corzine is selling a used car lemon to
voters.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >Frank, Take it Easy!
< Date: 20-Apr-00 >
You are a liar.
Why are you referring to Corzine's proposal for universal
health care as socialist medicine asshole? Do you understand
what socialism means? Are you so full of venom for Corzine
that you can't reason logically? We have the money in our
federal budget to pay for universal health care! That's part
of the money we waste on weapons of mass destruction. Let's
use some of that money.
Another thing
Frank, I was on the Human Rs Commission with your paisano
Alfano back in the 80s. He never did anything! Now he is the
Italian-American Jesse Jackson. What a joke!
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 20-Apr-00 >
Socialized
medicine is different from Corzine's plan in what way? I bet
you can't answer, because there is no difference. It is
government subsidized free health care. It may be deducted
from paychecks, but there is no difference between that and a
tax than semantics. Go ahead, tell me the difference.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >to above
< Date: 20-Apr-00 >
The difference
is that the 30 million people without health insurance at any
given time will be provided for.
Just remember:
National polling information since the 1950s have shown that a
majority of Americans favor some sort of socialized health
care.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 20-Apr-00 >
So what? Was
anyone not covered in the Soviet Union? You can't answer, can
you?! You just lash out with a campaign cliche or an attack on
corporations. It's socialized medicine, liar. Corzine is
selling something that has never worked anywhere. You told me
it was not socilized medicine, then you answer saying people
polled want sozialized medicine. As many lies as Clinton.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >Corzine Fan!
< Date: 20-Apr-00 >
Let's see.
Socialized medicine, national health care, whatever you want
to call it, is in place in every industrialized nation except
ours. Of course, your response will be that royalty from other
countries come here for health care. THAT'S JUST THE POINT!
The wealthy can afford to travel to other countries to get the
best care money can buy. What about Joe Six Pack who just lost
his job (and therefore his benefits) due to corporate
downsizing? How does he provide himself and his family with
that insurance. The going philosophy is, "Well, the
corporation can't protect its employees cradle to grave, so we
have to encourage charities to take care of social
problems." It doesn't always work that way.
If Florio wins
the primary, Jim Treffinger is a cinch to win the seat. He'll
just drudge up Florio's tax on toilet paper and the sales tax
increase. That will matter to the people, more than some
vendetta-ridden man accusing Corzine of anti-Italian remarks.
Geez, even the Jewish community has let that go. The NJ
Anti-Defamation League has said they won't pursue the matter
further because there was no evidence Corzine brought up the
lawyer's faith and even if he did, they accept Corzine's
apologies.
So the man has
some out of the box ideas, and he calls himself a liberal. So
what? Does this mean the man isn't electable? As I said
before, people didn't think Paul Wellstone, a well known 1960s
radical, could win as Senator. He did. Nobody thought Bernie
Sanders, who unabashedly calls himself an "independent
socialist" could win a Representative seat in Vermont,
much less the mayorship of Burlington. But he did. People in
San Francisco didn't think Tom Ammiano, a truly liberal gay
man, could win a seat on the city's board of supervisors. He
did, and he almost won as mayor.
If you want
Florio in the primary, you might as well just start
campaigning for Treffinger now.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >Florio for U.S. Senate
< Date: 20-Apr-00 >
Remember those
zillions of anti-Florio bumper stickers? We all thought he'd
lose by a landslide. Whitman barely got elected. Fact is,
Jerseyans are independent voters who kinda like Jim. Florio's
a great campaigner, a decent man, hardly a spendthrift. What
got Florio canned wasn't the income tax, which hurt the rich
folks & probably kept the state from going bankrupt, but
that extra penny on the sales tax, which hurt everyone.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >Corzine Fan!
< Date: 20-Apr-00 >
Yeah, and that
extra penny is what Treffinger will campaign against if Florio
wins the primary. Forget Florio. Corzine's the wave of the
future!
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 20-Apr-00 >
I heard that
Corzine had some kind of rally at the Union Knights of
Columbus Hall. The Knights are a Roman Catholic Fraternal
organization which is totally opposed to abortion. Why do they
let a candidate who supports partial birth abortion (acording
to the Star Ledger)hold an event in their Hall???!!!
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 20-Apr-00 >
Socialized
medicine is not in place in any South American country, nor in
the U.S.A. It exists only in Europe, somewhat in Canada, and
only in name in communist countries....the ones that send
their leaders to other countries when they get cancer. The
Arabs claim free medical care, but where did King Hussein and
the Shah come for treatment? Here. So you would change our
medical system? Corzine = Socialist liar. Treatment and
research have ALWAYS been superior in free market medical
economies. Give me an example contrary. You can't.
By the way,
liar, you said Corzine was not pushing socialized medicine,
then you started praising socialized medicine. Are you
admitting you are a liar too? LOL! As I said above, you were
unable to answer me.....without being a liar like Corzine that
is.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 21-Apr-00 >
Greg Parson is
the New Jersey Socialist Party candidate for senate. Go do a
websearch on the nut. The only issue he disagrees with Comrade
Corzine on is that Parsons thinks the CIA should be abolished.
That makes one issue I agree with Parsons and not Corzine the
yuppie socialist.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 21-Apr-00 >
Corzine sits
around the country club, imagining everything is made of gold,
and tells anyone not falling asleep how the city of gold
should be built for those same people who can't get a glass of
water at the same country club. A yuppie hypocrite. Socialist
with a limousine. Leftie with his Brooks Brothers suits on
hand for emergencies only....when his tailor gets sick.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 21-Apr-00 >
Corzine was
attacking Florio over the tax hike issue! The height of
Corzine hypocricy. Corzine wants a HUGE and EXPENSIVE
socialist health care bureaucracy, but he points at and
condemns the Florio record on taxes. Is any left who thinks
Corzine is honest?
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 21-Apr-00 >
Brooks Brothers?
County Club? You are such an ass. He doesn't belong to a
country club and just cause the guy can afford a nice suit
makes him a yuppie. You know nothing you idiot. Jon Corzine is
a good person who instead of sitting at the country club or
socializing or traveling his retirement away at age 50 he is
going to union halls and senior citizen homes to talk to
people about trying to change a system that does not work and
will not be able to support the numbers of people who are on
it. You whine about socializing health care but there are
hundreds of thousands of people in the country who have none.
You talk about hipocracy like you know what it is. Florio's
tax hike was done to help the working families of NJ but his
so called politcal smarts failed to let him in on a big
secret. 1.don't tax the rich--they'll run a campaign against
you 2. Don't ram your policies doqwn peoples throats, explain
what your doing and why. Florio is dividing local Democratic
parties in the name of winning the election, even going as far
as siding with the Sabina Republocrats in order to win. He has
sealed his fate, many Dems were never going to vote for him in
the fall now he is just adding to the list of people who will
not do it in November.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >another voice
< Date: 21-Apr-00 >
It should be a
great election. Bob Grant vs Corzine.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >seer
< Date: 21-Apr-00 >
I remenber
seeing an old women walking across the country to protest the
money mad office seekers. paying for a vocation to serve the
public, should not be the norm. mr. corzine is byeing your
vote not wining it. people who feel they are brokers in this
process are making long list for the payday down the road. our
best defence against power politics is in the ballet box, give
support to the man that has only himself to offer.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 22-Apr-00 >
Florio's tax
hike was done to help working people??? So why is Comrade
Corzine criticizing it??? Make sense, hypocrite. Corzine
attacks a $2 billion tax hike by Florio, while the yuppie with
a goatee wants to make a $2 TRILLION socialized medicine
system. And none of us will have the option of not buying into
Comrade Corzine's medicine show, We will be FORCED to comply.
Rich people like your yuppie will have options. We will not.
Explain, please.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 22-Apr-00 >
So, what is the
problem with a "small" $2 billion tax hike in one
state by Florio? Corzine, already rich, wants to FORCE us into
his medical "system" and charge us for it. Then we
are supposed to thank him for taking away our choices. What a
Hitler Corzine is! But Comrade Corzine thinks we are not
supposed to decide where our paycheck goes. Only yuppies like
him have the "knowledge" to determine such important
things. The rest of us return to serfdom. Comrade Corzine
knows best!
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 22-Apr-00 >
Corzine: The
McGovern of 2000
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 22-Apr-00 >
Who here is
crazy enough to think Jim Treffinger will win the primary--Treffinger
cannot win!!!! He is going to get spanked! As for whoever
makes the Comrade Corzine comments above, you could be the
dumbest person on the planet. We all remember the cold war,
stop trying to play to fears of communism because people can
see through your intentions. Corzine will not only win in the
primary but also the general election and will never get
universal anything through the Republican congress.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 22-Apr-00 >
Aww! Has
socialism changed its face......again? It's the same old scam.
Some liar like Corzine comes along promising free everything
without saying we have to pay for all that "free"
stuff. It is a lie. Corzine is a socialist. Go to the NJ
Socialist party page and compare Corzine's stands to their
candidate's. Very little difference. You really know how to
show your ignorance in public, don't you?
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 23-Apr-00 >
Comrade Corzine:
He spends your money the way he sees fit. That's not
socialism? Then it must be good old American Spoiled YUppie
greed. My paycheck will go to his bureaucratic job factory.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 24-Apr-00 >
Comrade Corzine!
Stop! Learn from other con artists. Promise everything only
ONE group at a time! If you want to be a dishonest, lying
yuppie, you must do this! You can tell your wife and mistress
how much you "care", just lie to the public
selectively. Tell old people the young people will pay for
their garden of Eden, tell Blacks the whites will pay, tell
Jews the Gentiles will pay....Get the idea? It's a lot like
how you stole.....I mean earned your fortune. Lie.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 24-Apr-00 >
The above poster
sounds very sick, very hysterical, very dangerous.
Wild, embittered
rantings, nothing more.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >To rabid antisocialist
< Date: 24-Apr-00 >
Hey asshole, why
don't you tell us why the rich aren't taxed while the rest of
us pay through the nose to support CORPORATE WELFARE and other
leeches! Whose ass are you kissing now? Sabina's? Jim
Treffinger's? Your last name must be Pezzino or Bucco. You
sound just like your rabid, illogical, illiterate letters. You
are history my friend. Do us all a favor. Just drop dead!
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >To rabid antisocialist
< Date: 24-Apr-00 >
Hey asshole, why
don't you tell us why the rich aren't taxed while the rest of
us pay through the nose to support CORPORATE WELFARE and other
leeches! Whose ass are you kissing now? Sabina's? Jim
Treffinger's? Your last name must be Pezzino or Bucco. You
sound just like your rabid, illogical, illiterate letters. You
are history my friend. Do us all a favor. Just drop dead!
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >One Who Knows
< Date: 24-Apr-00 >
Spent my life
inside the Democratic organization and some of you on the
threads would sure know who I am.
I am voting
against the re-establishment of Hoovervilles in America by
voting the REPUBLICAN LINE IN THE FALL. It's time to get rid
of every elected Democrat in the nation and get the country
working again. Enough of people who tell us they've invented
the internet and spend more time manipulating their members
than managing the nation. I've had it. They can all go to hell
this year!
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >former democrat
< Date: 24-Apr-00 >
wow. What a
great choice. The former tax and spend gov(largest tax
increase in the US at the time) or this wall street mulah who
yearns for socialism except for him and the Clinton-Gore dems.
Hey, maybe it's time NJ had someone other than a Democrat in
the Senate. Almost anyone has got to be better than these
awful choices. Who needs Corzine or Florio? Not NJ!!!
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 24-Apr-00 >
Corzine thinks
Ted Kennedy is a great visionary. Anyone willing to vote for
that? Not even the Essex County Isvestia: The Star ledger.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 25-Apr-00 >
To: One who
knows
Sabina you've
never been a Democrat and have supported the Republicans since
you were chair, if your supporting the entire Republican line
then why are you running with Florio?
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 25-Apr-00 >
"your"?
I guess spelling and economics are Comrade Corzine supporters'
weak points.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >Sabina?
< Date: 25-Apr-00 >
Me Sabina? Who
in hell is Sabina? She may be new to the scene but I am an old
sage and can tell you who did who, who did what and who did
what to who when.
I can tell you
that this year there are no choices. Just pick the crook of
your choice. I suppose it was always that way, but it is more
blatant and out in the open now.
If you refute
this you've played with your member too long and probably
can't process. Stand aside fools and watch the Republican tide
take hold. After four years those assholes should stand aside
as we vote the Dem assholes in. Every term, bastards in and
bastards out. Gives each party a chance to steal without being
total hogs. Vote em in----vote em out!!!!!!!!!!
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >Corzine Fan!
< Date: 25-Apr-00 >
Well, as we get
closer to primary time, the bile and muck starts to fly,
doesn't it? Hey Florio supporters, what do you think of your
hero's sudden turn around on not using the "Union County
Democratic Party" label? Even HE sees how much of a
liability he is to his own party.
Why do you think
the most powerful Democrats in the state are supporting
Corzine, a man who, if you take away his progressive ideas,
would be a Republican's wet-dream as a candidate. A man who
rose from nothing to become the chairman of one of the
nation's most prosperous companies. If you threw in right-wing
ideas and union-busting, Corzine could have made Bob Grant
look like Tom Hayden. However, Corzine also recognizes how
government can play a positive role in helping people and
alleviating social problems, so he has effectively alienated
the Republicans.
Why is Lesniak,
Lynch, Doria, Torricelli, Codey and Byrne supporting Corzine?
Because they know if Florio wins this primary, Treffinger is
going to put on his tap shoes and dance all over Florio's
head. If you remember, Treffinger was part of the
anti-Democrat backlash in 1994, riding in on Whitman's
coattails as well as the imprisonment of corrupt Essex County
officials. If Florio wins, you might as well put a huge
bullseye on Florio's chest, because Treffinger will throw up
the toilet paper tax, the sales tax increase and the
watered-down gun laws.
Corzine, a man
who rose from nothing and worked his way up, has a fighting
chance against Treffinger. In the years Treffinger has been in
local and county government, he has gone from the "Young
Turk" of Essex County, cleaning up county government and
pushing through welfare "reform" to becoming a
Whitman administration insider. Corzine was never a
politician, and thus can't be hurt by the old political games.
The best that can be done is magnifying alleged anti-Italian
remarks (again, there are NO Italians in the mafia?) by a
burned opportunist.
The answer is
clear: Corzine must win the primary or we might as well just
put Treffinger's name on the Senate office door.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >One Who Really Knows the Score
< Date: 25-Apr-00 >
If you want
Republicans in, be prepared to see more Little Havanas all
over the United States. These bastard Republican scumbags are
attacking Janet Reno, a powerful and righteous woman, because
they could not ram down the throats of "real"
Americans the despicable propaganda being sold by the Cuban
Miami mob. These are mobsters with strong ties to the drug
lords. Make no mistake about it! As soon as Castro dies, send
all these non-English speaking illiterates, freeloafers, thugs
who defy US laws back to CUBA.
That hypocrite
from Texas should be publicly denounced by law-abiding
Americans. Is this the kind of scum you want running our
country? Where do these bastards get off taking over U.S.
territory, flying the Cuban flag, and challenging U.S. laws?
Are we going to allow these thugs to take over our country? No
Way in Hell! Write to Gore and let him know that he
prostituted himself by pandering to the despicable Miami
Cubans. Vote all those Republican panderers out of office!
They support little Havana's all over the U.S. as long as they
pledge allegiance to corporate America. They don't even
understand English. Why are these worms allowed to vote?
Vote ALL
REPUBLICANS OUT OF OFFICE NOW!
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >One Who Really Knows the Score
< Date: 25-Apr-00 >
If you want
Republicans in, be prepared to see more Little Havanas all
over the United States. These bastard Republican scumbags are
attacking Janet Reno, a powerful and righteous woman, because
they could not ram down the throats of "real"
Americans the despicable propaganda being sold by the Cuban
Miami mob. These are mobsters with strong ties to the drug
lords. Make no mistake about it! As soon as Castro dies, send
all these non-English speaking illiterates, freeloafers, thugs
who defy US laws back to CUBA.
That hypocrite
from Texas should be publicly denounced by law-abiding
Americans. Is this the kind of scum you want running our
country? Where do these bastards get off taking over U.S.
territory, flying the Cuban flag, and challenging U.S. laws?
Are we going to allow these thugs to take over our country? No
Way in Hell! Write to Gore and let him know that he
prostituted himself by pandering to the despicable Miami
Cubans. Vote all those Republican panderers out of office!
They support little Havana's all over the U.S. as long as they
pledge allegiance to corporate America. They don't even
understand English. Why are these worms allowed to vote?
Vote ALL
REPUBLICANS OUT OF OFFICE NOW!
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >One Who Really Knows the Score
< Date: 25-Apr-00 >
If you want
Republicans in, be prepared to see more Little Havanas all
over the United States. These bastard Republican scumbags are
attacking Janet Reno, a powerful and righteous woman, because
they could not ram down the throats of "real"
Americans the despicable propaganda being sold by the Cuban
Miami mob. These are mobsters with strong ties to the drug
lords. Make no mistake about it! As soon as Castro dies, send
all these non-English speaking illiterates, freeloafers, thugs
who defy US laws back to CUBA.
That hypocrite
from Texas should be publicly denounced by law-abiding
Americans. Is this the kind of scum you want running our
country? Where do these bastards get off taking over U.S.
territory, flying the Cuban flag, and challenging U.S. laws?
Are we going to allow these thugs to take over our country? No
Way in Hell! Write to Gore and let him know that he
prostituted himself by pandering to the despicable Miami
Cubans. Vote all those Republican panderers out of office!
They support little Havana's all over the U.S. as long as they
pledge allegiance to corporate America. They don't even
understand English. Why are these worms allowed to vote?
Vote ALL
REPUBLICANS OUT OF OFFICE NOW!
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >One Who Really Knows the Score
< Date: 25-Apr-00 >
If you want
Republicans in, be prepared to see more Little Havanas all
over the United States. These bastard Republican scumbags are
attacking Janet Reno, a powerful and righteous woman, because
they could not ram down the throats of "real"
Americans the despicable propaganda being sold by the Cuban
Miami mob. These are mobsters with strong ties to the drug
lords. Make no mistake about it! As soon as Castro dies, send
all these non-English speaking illiterates, freeloafers, thugs
who defy US laws back to CUBA.
That hypocrite
from Texas should be publicly denounced by law-abiding
Americans. Is this the kind of scum you want running our
country? Where do these bastards get off taking over U.S.
territory, flying the Cuban flag, and challenging U.S. laws?
Are we going to allow these thugs to take over our country? No
Way in Hell! Write to Gore and let him know that he
prostituted himself by pandering to the despicable Miami
Cubans. Vote all those Republican panderers out of office!
They support little Havana's all over the U.S. as long as they
pledge allegiance to corporate America. They don't even
understand English. Why are these worms allowed to vote?
Vote ALL
REPUBLICANS OUT OF OFFICE NOW!
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 25-Apr-00 >
Here's the way I
see it. Florio cannot beat Treffinger. I will vote for anyone
who will teach Treff and his cronnies a lesson. He has his
fingers in the pie in Belleville; he has to learn.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 26-Apr-00 >
Soooooooooooooooooo,
does that mean Comrade Corzine's socialist medicine is going
to cost less? LOL! Alll you Corzine socialists can do is name
call to avoid answering the BIG question: HOW WILL CORZINE PAY
FOR UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE AND FREE COLLEGE TUITION???? Answer,
liars. Corzine is a Stalinist socialist. Oh, sorry, Corzine
supporters automatically think that asking a question makes
the questioner a CIA Little Havana operative.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 26-Apr-00 >
Corzine wants
your paycheck to be a record of the money jerks like him
decided you are too stupid to spend. Medicare, SSI, Medicaide,
Universal Health Care, Workman's Comp.......It will be all
deductions and no chip money once our "betters" like
Comrade Corzine decide how we MUST spend our money.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >Corzine Fan!
< Date: 26-Apr-00 >
Boy oh boy, are
the Florio people running scared. All they can do is attack
Corzine's plans as socialist (so 1980s/Reaganesque). Let me
ask you: Is health care the ONLY issue Corzine is running on?
NOOOOOOOOOOO. How about stricter gun laws? And what makes you
think that Corzine could actually GET A UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE
PLAN THROUGH??? Clinton couldn't his through a DEMOCRATIC
CONGRESS in 1993! Do you honestly think Corzine will be able
to get his through a Congress which still has a Republican
majority? Whenever someone proposes national health care, the
insurance lobbies and their spin doctors start throwing out
pictures of the Soviet Union and rationed health care, even
though our neighbor, Canada, has had no problems with their
system.
Jon Corzine has
IDEAS and PRINCIPLES he won't waver on. He's not an insider,
not a professional politician. Can you say the same about
Florio? I think not!
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >To Florio and Treffinger Supporters
< Date: 26-Apr-00 >
Your rantings
and ravings about Corzine are motivated by a pathetic sense of
inferiority! Yes, you feel you are inferior beings. This is
clearly shown by the hatred and jealousy you display toward
anyone with intelligence, decorum, and upright demeanor. Does
is make you feel better to slander upright citizens like
Corzine? Your socialist and Stalinist labels display your lack
of intelligence and profound ignorance of historical facts.
You are so pathetically uneducated and soaked in the 50s
propaganda that it's rather laughable. Do us all a favor, READ
CURRENT HISTORICAL ACCOUNTS. GO TO THE NY PUBLIC LIBRARY.
DON'T PROJECT YOUR STUPIDITY ON DECENT INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NOT
RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR LOT IN LIFE! Blame your parents and the
kind of schooling you were exposed to for what has become of
your sorry ass.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 27-Apr-00 >
So, after all
that name calling, how will Corzine PAY FOR UNIVERSAL HEALTH
CARE AND FREE COLLEGE TUITION???? A simple question the liars
can't seem to answer. They oppose gun ownership because after
the Corzine tax bill comes........Just answer the question,
liars. That question IS a current "account" and
Corzine is avoiding answering.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 27-Apr-00 >
LOL! Do you
honestly think another Ted Kennedy in congress like Comrade
Corzine will make people vote against Republicans??? You need
medication.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >Nuts About Nutley
< Date: 27-Apr-00 >
Corzine says he
has "bold ideas"? Universal this and universal that
are not bold ideas. They are representative of the same tired,
empty promises of statist elites who will never have to live
in the world they've created for us.
Want to see
government health care in action, you smug, self-righteous
pricks? Go to the Veterans Administration hospital in East
Orange. If after a 10-minute tour you're not completely
sickened, I'll vote for your billionaire socialist candidate.
< Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US
Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 27-Apr-00 >
That last post
is spot on! Corzine = COMMIE
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >Nuts About Nutley
< Date: 27-Apr-00 >
Corzine
says he has "bold ideas"? Universal this and
universal that are not bold ideas. They are representative of
the same tired, empty promises of statist elites who will
never have to live in the world they've created for us. Want
to see government health care in action, you smug,
self-righteous pricks? Go to the Veterans Administration
hospital in East Orange. If after a 10-minute tour you're not
completely sickened, I'll vote for your billionaire socialist
candidate.
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >Nuts About Nutley
< Date: 27-Apr-00 >
Thanks
for the compliment. It's a shame that sort of criticism isn't
repeated in our "free" press.
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >Corzine Fan!
< Date: 27-Apr-00 >
Corzine
= "Commie?" Trying to relive the Reagan years, huh?
Well, that's done and over with. Anything remotely smacking of
liberalism was considered Communist during his tenure. Anyway,
to the other poster who claims that Corzine wants gun control
so he can tax everyone without resistance...I've got three
words for you: NEW JERSEY MILITIA. Why don't you contact your
Minutemen friends in Montana and meet?
Finally,
to the dude about VA hospitals. Don't give me that. NO country
in the world treats its veterans very well, and no politician
in this country has done much for them either. Remember
Hoovervilles? Remember Agent Orange? Remember Gulf War
Syndrome? Remember Post Traumatic Stress Disorder? Find a
private insurance or medical company which has the resources
to deal with these problems and then you can criticize the VA.
Anyway, if you look at how other countries treat their
veterans, our vets are treated all right, even though there is
room for improvement.
The
issue in the Corzine/Florio race is electability. You have a
insider who was governor of New Jersey and raised sales taxes
and put new taxes on products like toilet paper. Or you have a
man who grew from nothing to become chairman of a Fortune 500
company whose opponent can find nothing on except allegations
of funding a war in Sudan and of pushing a disgruntled
job-seeker's allegations of anti-Italian remarks. Of the two
of them, who will pose a better challenge to Treffinger. If
Florio wins, Treffinger's going to go through him like a hot
knife through butter. Corzine stands a good chance.
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >To the Nutley Racists
< Date: 27-Apr-00 >
I
know why that one loser from Nutley (AND IT'S ONLY ONE PERSON
POSTING AS A RABID ANTICOMMUNIST) hates Corzine so much.
CORZINE IS BACKED BY WOMEN, BLACKS AND LATINOS. The black
leadership of the State of New Jersey has made it very clear
that they WILL NOT BACK FLORIO OR TREFFINGER. The only
recourse RACISTS AND FASCISTS HAVE IS TO DEFAME AND SLANDER
DECENT HUMAN BEINGS!
Nutley
loser: Why don't you acknowledge the fact that you are a
racist and that it kills you that women, black and Latino
voters are supporting CORZINE. As to a "free press,"
the garbage Star Ledger has been running an anti-Corzine
campaign for months. We all know why! This is racism at its
best.
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >C. Moorehed
< Date: 28-Apr-00 >
Actually
liberalism as the current crop of democrats are trying to
practice it is more akin to socialism. Still a losing game
like communism. Of course with their super-inflated egos they
believe they can make it work. They can't, it would fail as it
has in the rest of the world. It does sound good though. Easy
to sway people with the big promises. They always leave out
the long term costs though.
And
no I am not the Nutley guy. I am not sure but I don't think he
can do this: corzine = COMMIE
florio = SLIME
In
general democrats piss me off with their incessent whining and
crisis mongering. If your not doing at least halfway well in
the current economy (yes clinton takes the credit for it, but
be real) you just ain't trying. Nobody,particularly a
socialist or democrat (oops being redundant there) is going to
change that.
About
the VA. Are you saying that because other countries treat
their vets poorly we should also? I miss your point, if you
had one. This has been a long standing problem. Take the mans
suggestion and make a visit. Even the most basic of care is
sadly lacking. Before these wonderful politicians promise
everything to every group they need to form a coalition they
should honor the promises that were made to the people that
have actually contributed something to the country. Maybe
consider it a test to see what the likelyhood of there doing
what they say they will do is. Then they can move on to save
the voluntarily helpless.
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 28-Apr-00 >
Florio
accuses Comrade Corzine of things done overseas. I accuse
Comrade Corzine of making promises he REFUSES to explain how
he will pay for. Comrade Corzine says he will FORCE (As in
anti-freedom) companies to provide universal health care.
Sounds nice, to a retard. That means either the workers pay
for it and/or the price gets put on the product. Comrade
Corzine, a born yuppie liar, will not address that little
problem.
Before
you go off on another verbal flamethrower assault, why not
explain to us how "universal health care" and
"free college tuition" can possibly be provided for
free? Does that mean the Mayo Clinic and Princeton will remain
the highest standards on name alone? Make sense before you
march out there with fists in the air shouting "Comrade
Corzine hates Fascists!"
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >Corzine press conference!
< Date: 28-Apr-00 >
Q:
How do you propose to pay for free college tuition and
universal health care, Mr. Corzine?
A:
You fascist, racist, homophobe! How dare you come in here so
full of hate. You are exactly why I am running for public
office!
Q:
What makes you qualified for the senate, sir?
A:
These Florio supporters are getting as bad as evil Reagan! I
can not believe how much personal suffering I must endure! Oh,
the humanity!
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 28-Apr-00 >
Corzine:
Another yuppie know it all who believes your paycheck is his
to decide where to spend.
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 28-Apr-00 >
"Bold"
ideas, covered with mold. Been there, done that. This
socialized medicine stuff is a delusion most sensible people
outgrow by ag 22. Reality, unlike the world of a
multimillionaire yuppie, does not tolerate such things. Go to
the old soviet union, Comrade Corzine. Look at what your
"bold" ideas did.
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >Nuts About Nutley
< Date: 28-Apr-00 >
Sheeesh!
Why can't liberals debate a point with intellectual honesty?
Why are all who disagree called bigots amid a burst of
irrational, fearful, hate?
The
point about the VA hospital in E. Orange wasn't about the U.S.
government's treatment of veterans. It was about the inability
of government to manage enterprises it shouldn't even be
allowed to look at.
I
don't know if you're friendly with any government employees,
but if you have the chance, ask one -- any one: cop, postal
worker, bureaucrat, etc. -- to recall a few horror stories
about incompetence, negligence, nepotism, no-show jobs, and
unspeakable waste and theft in their workplaces.
Then
you should imagine those images in a hospital setting... and
then picture yourself being admitted for treatment there.
Why
my resentment of some zillionaire thinking he needs to wield
that kind of power over me makes me a racist, I don't know.
I'm probably in good company, because hysterical freaks like
that call anyone and everyone with a differing view racist,
sexist, blah blah blahs.
And
what entitles you to speak for all women, blacks and Latinos?
Are you kidding? You're the racist, because you can't
acknowledge the individuality of people. Stop thinking in
generalities! Open your mind you weakling.
If
it is true that the "black leadership" will only
support Cor$ine, and not Treffinger, then so be it. I would
like to see Jim Treffinger win, and he can do it without the
Rev. Reggie Jackson... should it come to that.
The
point is, Treffinger merits the support of average
African-Americans who appreciate the routing of corruption
from government, low taxes, etc.
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >Corzine Fan!
< Date: 28-Apr-00 >
To
the guy who wrote:
"Corzine:
Another yuppie know it all who believes your paycheck is his
to decide where to spend."
Yeah,
like there are politicians now who actually don't. Even Newt
Gingrich, the leader of the so-called "Republican
Revolution" in 1994 brought millions of pork dollars back
to his home district, while railing against Democratic
politicians who did the same. The fact is the government needs
taxes to run, and another fact is that of all the other
industrialized nations in the world, the United States is
still the least taxed.
Now
it seems people got the wrong idea about my writings about VA
hospitals. What I meant was that you can go to any other
country in the world, and see how they take care of their
veterans, and the US still comes out on top. BTW, to the guy
who said, "Before these wonderful politicians promise
everything to every group they need to form a coalition they
should honor the promises that were made to the people that
have actually contributed something to the country," if
you read Corzine's biography, he did serve in the Marine
reserves. So much for the "He didn't do his duty for his
country" argument.
I
said it before, and I'll say it again. What this race comes
down to is ELECTABILITY. I'm guessing that the anti-Corzines
on this thread live in Essex County. Drive through Newark and
the Oranges. The Corzine posters are all over the place! Look
at the endorsements Corzine is getting. The black clergymen
have already endorsed him, as have the party leaders,
Torricelli, even Lautenberg himself!
Florio
may have his power base in South Jersey, but its the large
cities in the state (Newark, Paterson, Irvington, Camden,
Trenton) that have the most population and will be the
bellwethers for the primary. It appears Corzine has these
areas pretty much wrapped up.
Again,
it's electability. I'm not concerned about Corzine's
"socialist" health care or education proposals,
because he won't get them through. Hell, Clinton's
"National Service" bill which would have provided
education funds for students who volunteer got so watered down
it didn't even last. I read Florio's plan, and even that
wouldn't get through Congress. However, I'm looking at the
prospects here. Florio's tax increases basically cost the
entire Democratic Party huge losses in 1993 when Whitman came
in, making him the bane of the party. If Florio wins the
primary, the man is gonna be eaten alive by Treffinger. If
Corzine wins, Treffinger will have to rethink his entire
campaign strategy, because he'll be facing a dark horse
candidate. If Corzine wins, at least he's new blood.
The
point is simple:
If
Florio wins, the party dies.
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >GOP George
< Date: 28-Apr-00 >
This
entire thread is really ridiculous.It's obviously nothing more
than Essex County propaganda.Treffinger isn't even going to be
in the race after June 6th.This election (the real one) is
about Corzine v. Franks.
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 29-Apr-00 >
"Electability"
is all that matters? How about honesty? Let Comrade Corzine
HONESTLY tell us how he can provide "free" college
tuition. It is a blatant lie! Everything has a price. Comrade
Corzine wants my money to pay for his plan. That's all! Why
does he LIE so much? What the hell is "free" about
his plan when he is taking my money to pay for his campaign
promises?????
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 29-Apr-00 >
Where's
the answer, Comrade Corzine? How do you intend to PAY for all
your promises?
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >Nuts About Nutley
< Date: 29-Apr-00 >
There
is so much anti-Giblin sentiment in the corrupt, broken down
Democratic machine, that Florio probably stands a better
chance in Essex than in his So. Jersey base.
Go
Florio! (so Treffinger can clobber you.)
And
should Cor$ine win the nomination, that's no problem either.
He's an unknown nobody, and money does not vote. Just ask
Arianna's ex-hubby in Calif., who spent $30 million.
Treffinger would beat him like a drum. Even the bland,
uninspiring Franks would too. Even the useless, casino
huckster Gormley would!
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >Corzine Fan!
< Date: 29-Apr-00 >
What,
exactly has Corzine lied about? Just because he hasn't
answered YOUR question to YOUR satisfaction doesn't mean the
man is a liar. It's obvious you had no intention of voting for
the man to begin with.
If
you think Florio has a chance in Essex County, think back to
the 1997 election in the 34th Legislative District. Norm
Robertson did ads and literature showing Joan Waks picture
next to Florio's and calling Waks a "Florio
appointee." She subsequently lost.
As
for the idea that Corzine is an unknown nobody, that
"unknown nobody" sure has a lot of support up north.
Just drive around Essex County. You see Corzine signs
everywhere. I have yet to see a Florio sign. What's more,
Corzine has the endorsement of the Black Clergymen
association, a rather powerful endorsement. A poster a little
bit back said that Treffinger will win even if Rev. Reginald
Jackson and the clergymen don't support him. LOL! Why do you
think there was such a hub-bub over Ed Rollins' joke that the
Whitman people had paid off black clergymen in the 1993
election. BECAUSE THEY ARE ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL
ENDORSEMENTS ONE CAN GET! Their endorsement of Governor
Whitman helped her win the election in urban areas, where they
hold a lot of sway. Hell, look at the literature the
Republicans threw around the Oranges and Newark last year,
claiming they were supporting affirmative action.
As
for the Corzine versus Huffington comparison, Huffington's
loss had much more to do with Arianna hiring a private
detective to dig up dirt on a reporter and the lack of a
cohesive message and platform than his money. Corzine has a
platform, and he's sticking to it.
"A
Florio win is a party tailspin!"
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >Nuts About Nutley
< Date: 29-Apr-00 >
Lawn
signs and posters do not vote. So if that's your measure of
Cor$ine's support, take a deep breath and look at reality.
Whoever wins Essex County wins the nomination; that's just a
fact that is proven by history.
As
for Treffinger and the black holy rollers, the County
Executive won re-election in '98 handily, despite being
opposed by those king makers... who disgraced themselves by
aligning with Ken Gibson. They have no credibility with real
people. The only voters who listen to the Rev. Jackson and
those fools are the voters who trade their votes for free bus
rides to the polls and box lunches.
Cor$ine
can have them... and the limousine liberals too. The Florio
support, I admit, isn't about supporting Florio. It's about
defying Boss Giblin, the creep.
Go
Florio!
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 29-Apr-00 >
He
lies when he says "free" college tuition and
"free" health care. It isn't free.
Those
Essex County signs are all the union and government workers
forced to support the most left wing candidate every election.
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >Corzine Fan! to above
< Date: 29-Apr-00 >
Funny
you mention that. I wonder who AFSCME and the other public
unions will endorse, especially after Florio laid off so many
state workers.
What's
so bad about Giblin? He's done his best. BTW, don't think a
Florio victory will end Giblin's power. It won't. If Florio
wins the nomination, Treffinger will beat him, and there will
be a battle for county executive. The Democratic choice will
probably be Joe DiVincenzo or some other Adubato-backed crony,
so don't think things will change.
If
you look at the election results, Treffinger's power base was
the white suburbanite. What has Treffinger done for Newark,
Irvington and East Orange and Orange lately. Not too much! The
fact that Verona Park is the best kept park in the county
while Branch Brook is crumbling might tell you something. The
County Executive race is a county race The Florio-Corzine race
is on a state level, not a county one. If Corzine wins the big
cities, Florio is lost.
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >Nuts About Nutley
< Date: 29-Apr-00 >
What's
so bad about Giblin?!
Well,
what can you say about a creature which so lusts for power
that he: a) has to be the labor union boss b) has to be the
Essex Democratic chairman c) has to be the state Democratic
chairman d) has to be the Essex County Executive (was an 'also
ran' in '94) e) has to be President of the Board of Chosen
Freeholders (as he was for a long time, not so long ago)
Losing
sleep over the plight of the urban centers, are you?
You
should ask Boss Giblin what he's done for the cities. The
school boards, the mayors, the councilmen, the state
legislators and the congressmen who represent the cities all
work for Boss Giblin. They do what he says (for the most part)
and don't do what he doesn't say.
Verona
Park is so well maintained, because it was never in real
disrepair, and because the people who use it, show respect.
Branch Brook Park once was an actual vacation spot for my
family, so don't lecture me about it.
And
don't blame Jim Treffinger. Open your mind.
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >Corzine Fan!
< Date: 30-Apr-00 >
It's
obvious the majority of Democrats on the County Committee
approve of Giblin, so that's why he's county chairman. It also
appears the state party leaders like what he's done, so they
gave him the state chairmanship too. It probably doesn't hurt
that Essex County is also one of the Democratic mainstays.
Finally, he lost the executive race and is no longer on the
freeholders. So don't make it look like he wants all these
things all at once.
My
point about the "urban centers" is that they are
huge voting blocs. Newark alone will win you a nomination for
a county office. But since the Corzine/Florio race will be
statewide, whoever gets the majorities in Newark, Jersey City,
Irvington, Passaic, Trenton, Camden, Paterson and other cities
will carry the day.
At
least Giblin is in contact with those "who work for
him." What has Treffinger done for Newark, Irvington and
the Oranges? NOTHING! The white suburbanites were his power
base.
So
the fact that Verona Park gets a lot of the maintenance work
has nothing to do with the fact Treffinger was that town's
mayor for how many years? Let me tell you, in Branch Brook
Park and even in Brookdale Park, it isn't people's "lack
of respect" that makes the grass overgrown or makes the
leaves pile up. That may sound minor, but it isn't. Tall grass
and huge leaf piles attract rats and insects, making the parks
unsafe for the kids. It took a press conference at Branch
Brook by Joe DiVincenzo and other freeholders to shame
Treffinger into at least starting to improve that park.
Why
shouldn't I blame Treffinger? I will give the man credit where
it is due. Yes, he cleaned up the county government after
D'Alessio. However, he is quickly becoming just as arrogant
and insiderish as D'Alessio ever was. On the local level, he
gets people with low morals to do his work for him. Did you
know two of his operatives owe fines to the Election Law
Enforcement Commission as far back as 10 years ago?
But
we're getting off the subject. My point is about Corzine. He's
getting the support he needs in this county, the most
populated in the state. When Florio raised taxes, he basically
screwed the entire state party, allowing the huge Democratic
backlash in 1993. If he wins, no matter who wins the Repub
nomination, be it Franks, Gormley, Treffinger or possibly
Sabrin, they will trounce Florio by simply bringing up the
taxes. Corzine, never before a professional politician or an
insider, is a new creature for everyone. Let's see how the
Repubs try to design a strategy against a man who, by any
measure except his progressive beliefs, would be a Republican
wet-dream.
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 30-Apr-00 >
Progressive?
Socialism is "progressive". Get a grip on reality.
"Free" college tuition and "free" medical
care cost money. They will be run like the Pentagon: Wasteful,
huge, out of control and impossible to get rid of. Corzine is
a boob.
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >Corzine Fan! to above
< Date: 30-Apr-00 >
Hmmm.
Free college tuition is a wasteful bureaucracy, huh? I wonder
if you've ever heard of a program which since the end of the
1940s allowed millions of people to go to college with little
or no cost to the person. It's called the GI Bill. Since World
War II, military veterans have been given money to further
their education. Even conservatives have marvelled at how well
the program has worked.
So
much for that argument.
As
far as health care goes, have you looked at Florio's plan?
It's just as intrusive and involves government as much as
anything Corzine could think up.
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >Old Timer
< Date: 30-Apr-00 >
Somehow
the above anti-Corzine rhetoric keeps reminding me of the
1930'3 when the Herbert Hoover people labeled Franklin
Roosevelt a socialist and/or communist for introducing Social
Security. Later the advocates of Medicare were denounced as
advocates of socialized medicine.
Now,
where would I be today without these life saving programs--in
some dismal institution perhaps, with the government
supporting me anyway? And wouldn't that be at taxpayers
expense?
Democracy
thrives when the population is well cared for. Communist
revolutions, if you review your history, have occurred where
poverty and sorry conditions have led the masses to accept
totalitarianism in return for bread.
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >Nuts About Nutley
< Date: 30-Apr-00 >
In
democratic republics, the people aren't "masses,"
and they aren't to be "cared for."
Just
remember that while government is taking care of you, it is
taking away from someone else.
You're
idea of a successful government program is Social Security? Do
you realize that population trends will leave three workers
being taxed to support a single benefits recipient? Picture
your grandchildren working multiple jobs so you can collect
more money than you ever paid in... and be ashamed!
Government
is not a pension program. If you invested conservatively, you
would have made more money from the NYSE since 1930 than you
would've received from our loving federal government. Grow up!
Stop waiting for some bureaucrat who doesn't give a damn about
you to save you.
As
for communist revolutions, don't lecture me on history. Such
governments have existed only where freedom never had.
Marxists, Leninists, Stalinists, Maoists, etc. have only
replaced monarchs and other dictators.
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 30-Apr-00 >
Free
tuition is not offered by the GI BIll, liar. Typical Corzine
socialist: Misrepresent, attack opponents, lie, lie, lie. GI
Bill pays for PART of tuition for ONLY some people, not
everyone who served an enlistment. Where do you get off
claiming it pays "free" Comrade Corzine type
tuition, liar? P.S. Are you claiming the V.A. hospitals make
it a "necessity" that EVERYONE receives the same
care? Go back home to Cuba, comrade.
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >To the no-name poster above
< Date: 01-May-00 >
A
good position does not need to be supported by name calling
and abuse. On the contrary, respectful disagreement achieves
more attention than wild and nasty remarks.
Cogent
remarks, intelligently stated, make a greater impression than
intemperate nastiness. A raving and ranting person gives the
appearance of being embittered for some reason, possibly
unstable.
Just
give us the facts please without the vituperative
embellishment.
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >My Vote for Corzine!
< Date: 01-May-00 >
I
know Jon Corzine and whatever the red-baiting unstable
individuals posting on this thread say, I and many others will
vote for him.
What
we do not need is another Treffinger. Do you citizens realize
what he is doing with our county? He is brutally selling out
every parcel of open space left in Essex County. He is selling
out his soul to developers in exchange for votes and financial
backing.
Keep
in mind that with more condominiums, five-acre homes, palatial
states at the expense of Essex County TAXPAYERS, we will all
be doomed financially and environmentally. We will have to
shell out millions of dollars to keep this county afloat after
Treffinger is done with it. Ask Sabina what she does to earn
her keep under Treffinger's wing!
Those
who label Corzine communist or socialist are really dreaming
about the Reagan years. My friends, I make a prediction that
your lovely stock portfolio is going to suffer a terrific blow
by the end of the year. So much for "let the market
place" run America. I do care about the hundreds of
thousands without health coverage and with an inferior type of
education. If that's socialism for the intellectually
inferior, then so be it! We have to provide for everyone.
That's what America is all about. We need to get away from the
grotesque economic and class distinctions found in the third
world. That's where we seem to be headed if we listen to
George Bush, Jim Treffinger, or some other degenerate.
As
to moral characters, Jon Corzine and his wife have been
married for 31 years. These are wholesome, decent human
beings. Remember your hero Newt Gingricht? His wife had cancer
but that did not stopped him from abandoning her when she
needed him most. This is the most disgusting example of
selfishness and immorality I have ever seen.
Self-gratification above everything else! That's the
Republican motto for you. So much for FAMILY VALUES!
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >Nuts About Nutley
< Date: 01-May-00 >
To
the above poster:
Please
get your facts straight when you discuss Treffinger's or any
public official's record.
"Brutally
selling off every parcel of open space?" You sound like
some Sierra Club ninny I know. I'll assume you're referring to
the Hilltop, which is slated to become a 200+ acre county
park. Yeah Treffinger is a real whore to the developers....
You'd think he wanted to build a golf course and office
complex there -- oh wait! That was Peter Shapiro!
Maybe
he illegally dumped tons of waste on the Hilltop in the middle
of the night -- oh wait! That was Tommy D!
As
for development of Hilltop, hundreds of needed seniors
housing-units and a 100 or so townhouses do not add up to the
"five acre homes and palatial estates" you've
invented.
As
for county finances, the rate of debt accumulation under
Treffinger has been lower than under his predecessors. His
handling of the jails/youth home fiascos, waste disposal
contract, and other reforms have saved taxpayers HALF A
BILLION DOLLARS!
Whoever
taught you that "we have to provide for everyone"
because "that's what America is all about" deserves
a punch in the mouth.
America
is about freedom and equal protection under law so that
everyone may provide for themselves according to their unique
talents. Until you realize that responsibility and freedom are
the paths to success, you'll continue to be one bitter,
disappointed liberal... the kind of fool Cor$ine expects to
line up in droves at the polls.
Go
Florio! (so Treffinger can whip you)
<
Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >Corzine Fan! to above
< Date: 01-May-00 >
Yeah,
Treffinger came up with the idea of making the Hilltop a
county park ALL BY HIS LITTLE LONESOME. It had nothing to do
with the howls of protest from the people in Cedar Grove,
Verona and the Caldwells, as well as resistance from the
freeholders. If you believe that, you believe in unicorns,
too. Treffinger was ready to sell that land to the highest
bidder when the issue first came up, claiming it would be a
way to kill the county debt. It was only after all the
pressure did he agree to make it a county park.
Are
past Democrats guilty of environmental sins as well? Of
course! But one you mentioned is in jail, and the other no
longer has any political power. We're focusing on Treffinger
because he's the one in office.
Like
it or not, government has become a partner in American
freedom. If it hadn't been for FDR, America's future would
have been left to the whims of the robber barons like Mellon
and Carnegie. Roosevelt's plan to create government jobs
earned him the label of "a traitor to his class" and
"socialist" by his Republican opponents.
So,
if I'm to understand you, you do not benefit from ANY
GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS at all? You do not pay into unemployment
or Social Security, you do not use roads, or anything else?
That's the conservative bullshit line.
If
you see the support coming out for Corzine in this county,
you'll see there are a lot of "bitter liberals and
fools" who will help him get the nomination. I wonder how
many government employees will support Florio, considering the
fact he laid off half the state government work force.
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Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 01-May-00 >
None
of which changes the fact that Comrade Corzine wants socialism
as America's policy. Free medical, free tuition,
free......Wait! Everything has a price! Comrade Corzine lies
about that. HOW WILL CORZINE PAY FOR HIS PROMISES????? ANSWER!
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Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >To the Whining Red Baiter Above
< Date: 02-May-00 >
How
did you get your education? How did you or your parents manage
to buy a house on working class salaries? It was thanks to the
GI BILL THAT MANY OF YOU CONSERVATIVE FOOLS GOT WHERE YOU ARE!
The
America of the 50s gave those past the babyboom age a real
break! How dare you forget history and rant and rave about
socialism.
Yes,
everything has a price. What would the fool posting above do
if we did get a flat tax rate and you could not deduct your
precious mortgage, charities, and all the other nonsense that
most of you invent to avoid paying taxes?
We
pay taxes to educate children and young adults, to provide for
the disabled and homeless, to hopefully provide for those who
cannot afford the high cost of private health insurance.
Education
in this country is becoming less accessible to working class
youth. You will reap what you sow. Just remember that despair
brings instability. As to Princeton, some of those in their
50s who were lucky enough to go to Princeton went there on
SCHOLARSHIPS! DO YOUR HOMEWORK AND FIND OUT HOW SOME PRINCETON
AND HARVARD GRADUATES WERE ABLE TO AFFORD AN IVY LEAGUE
EDUCATION!
Corzine
will pay for his promises by fighting to get some of the
grotesque PENTAGON billions reassigned to education and
health. GET RID OF THE WASTE IN THE PENTAGON! Why are you not
ranting and raving about your hero Reagan's Star War
initiative and the criminal waste of taxpayers's monies in
military spending to destroy invented enemies?
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Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >To the Whining Red Baiter Above
< Date: 02-May-00 >
How
did you get your education? How did you or your parents manage
to buy a house on working class salaries? It was thanks to the
GI BILL THAT MANY OF YOU CONSERVATIVE FOOLS GOT WHERE YOU ARE!
The
America of the 50s gave those past the babyboom age a real
break! How dare you forget history and rant and rave about
socialism.
Yes,
everything has a price. What would the fool posting above do
if we did get a flat tax rate and you could not deduct your
precious mortgage, charities, and all the other nonsense that
most of you invent to avoid paying taxes?
We
pay taxes to educate children and young adults, to provide for
the disabled and homeless, to hopefully provide for those who
cannot afford the high cost of private health insurance.
Education
in this country is becoming less accessible to working class
youth. You will reap what you sow. Just remember that despair
brings instability. As to Princeton, some of those in their
50s who were lucky enough to go to Princeton went there on
SCHOLARSHIPS! DO YOUR HOMEWORK AND FIND OUT HOW SOME PRINCETON
AND HARVARD GRADUATES WERE ABLE TO AFFORD AN IVY LEAGUE
EDUCATION!
Corzine
will pay for his promises by fighting to get some of the
grotesque PENTAGON billions reassigned to education and
health. GET RID OF THE WASTE IN THE PENTAGON! Why are you not
ranting and raving about your hero Reagan's Star War
initiative and the criminal waste of taxpayers's monies in
military spending to destroy invented enemies?
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Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 02-May-00 >
Amazing
how the above rabies case can not defend Comrade Corzine
without lashing out all over the place. If he could read, he
would have seen I earlier criticized Comrade Corzine because
his programs would be as wasteful as the Pentagon. Sad, the
level of reading comprehension among the frothers.
How
to defend Comrade Corzine? Call Reagan names. How to defend
Comrade Corzine's plan to create another huge expensive
bureaucracy? Attack a different bureaucracy. Anything but
truthfulness, it seems.
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Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >Nuts About Nutley
< Date: 02-May-00 >
Amen
to the above.
Hysteria,
hyperbole and hypocracy are the hallmarks of liberals, who,
after all, are nothing more than hypocrites, liars and
thieves.
What
a leap of "logic" to equate citizens' use of roads
with giving government the power to choose our doctors for us.
The clown probably doesn't realize that our crumbling
infrastructure is symptomatic of what awaits us at the
doctor's office when Cor$ine has his way.
I
can't understand this fanatical support of this candidate by
people who claim to stand up for the little guy. That poster
even invoked the names of Mellon and Carnegie. What do you
think Cor$ine is... a man of the people?!
Cor$ine
isn't a robber baron exploiting the masses. He is a parasite
skimming off the profits of robber barons... and liberals are
waiting for HIM to save them? What a sad comment on society.
At
least those "robber barons" of the Gilded Age
created thousands of jobs for regular people, and then turned
philanthropic in ways Cor$ine can't even comprehend. No,
Cor$ine is too busy giving his money to every creepy Democrat
hack he can find in order to buy organization support.
Cavanaugh, Stender and Barrett... please!
Back
to the county executive: Jim Treffinger may not have thought
of creating Hilltop Reservation "all by his little
lonesome," but he was among the earliest (c. 1985)
proponents of that idea. He was a founding member of Save the
Mountains, the organization started specifically to stop
Shapiro's sell out to the developers.
Get
your facts straight! You sound like that buffoon Gerry C., who
was laid off by Treffinger and now spends all his time
seething about it. You probably are Gerry, aren't you?
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Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >Corzine Fan! to above
< Date: 02-May-00 >
No,
I'm not "Gerry C" or whoever that is. I have no
connection to Treffinger whatsoever. Is Corzine rich? Yes.
Does he flaunt it? No, not according to people who have met
him. A person interviewed in a NYT article about Corzine a few
months ago said he had the presence of someone who cuts your
lawn, not some wealthy guy.
Anyway,
yes, Corzine is a man of the people. What else would you call
a man who is jeopardizing his political career by taking on
the insurance companies by proposing universal health care,
the NRA for proposing stricter gun control, and even the
religious conservatives for his pledge to perform civil unions
for gay couples?
The
fact is Corzine was the chairman of A FORTUNE 500 company!!!
The man knows finances, business practices, etc. He had
several thousand people working under him. Again, as I said
before: if you took Corzine, and replaced his ideas with
"family values," union-busting and laissez-faire
capitalism, the Repubs would be falling over themselves to get
him to run for office.
BTW,
another Corzine campaign office just opened. Right on Scotland
Road in Orange. It seems that this "parasite" is
getting a lot of support in Essex County.
Back
to the county exec. It's very nice that he started Save the
Mountains. It's a shame that he became a D'Alessio and Shapiro
clone when he got power. The Hilltop became just another pair
of dollar signs for Ol' Jim.
BTW,
what do you think will happen if Treffinger DOES win the seat?
An interim will have to be chosen, who will probably be a weak
exec anyway. In 2001, when the exec is up again, I'll bet you
DiVincenzo or some other Adubato flunkie will get in. End of
the Republican era in Essex County!
Face
it. Corzine's gonna win the nomination and with any luck will
win the seat.
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Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >
< Date: 02-May-00 >
And
Comrade Corzine will become a Ted Kennedy clone.
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Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >Corzine Fan! to above
< Date: 02-May-00 >
And
how horrible would that be? Do you want to know why Kennedy
keeps getting re-elected. BECAUSE HE DOES WHAT HE PROMISES TO
DO! He has yet to break a campaign promise.
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Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >Another Corzinite!
< Date: 02-May-00 >
Face
it rabid red baiter, you cannot even spell
"hypocracy." The illiterate calling the kettle
black!
Yes,
Corzine is a fortune 500 winner. Yes, he is a man of the
people. Yes, he has class and erudition (something our
red-baiting losers lack!).
IT
WAS JIM TREFFINGER WHO APPOINTED PATRICIA HURT and then nixed
her! Jim Treffinger used to be a Democrat or have you
forgotten that? He will do anything to get himself elected to
the Senate. He will go after the right-to-life fanatics and
murderers to get the conservative vote.
Jim
Treffinger is no match for Corzine. He does not even have the
moral convictions of a Florio. He is a typical Republican
prostitute. We have lots of them in Essex Co.
What
happened to his promise to do away with County Government! Why
do we even need a county government? We shall see what happens
after June 6th.
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Subject: RE: Jon Corzine for US Senate >
< From: >Another Corzinite!
< Date: 02-May-00 >
Face
it rabid red baiter, you cannot even spell
"hypocracy." The illiterate calling the kettle
black!
Yes,
Corzine is a fortune 500 winner. Yes, he is a man of the
people. Yes, he has class and erudition (something our
red-baiting losers lack!).
IT
WAS JIM TREFFINGER WHO APPOINTED PATRICIA HURT and then nixed
her! Jim Treffinger used to be a Democrat or have you
forgotten that? He will do anything to get himself elected to
the Senate. He will go after the right-to-life fanatics and
murderers to get the conservative vote.
Jim
Treffinger is no match for Corzine. He does not even have the
moral convictions of a Florio. He is a typical Republican
prostitute. We have lots of them in Essex Co.
What happened to
his promise to do away with County Government! Why do we even
need a county government? We shall see what happens after June
6th.
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