< Literary Criticisms >

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< Fran                                 21-Jan-98 >   
< Ditto                                21-Jan-98 >   
< Ray                                  21-Jan-98 >   
< Irish Girl                           21-Jan-98 >   
< Crystal                              21-Jan-98 >   
< Mollie                               21-Jan-98 >   
< Passer-by                            21-Jan-98 >   
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< Rhonda Hemmingway                    23-Jan-98 >   
< Fran                                 23-Jan-98 >   
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< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Mollie
< Date: 19-Jan-98 >

Lynn sweetie? Do you think June Allyson(note the correct spelling) advertises big guys kimbies cos she uses them?

Shute nobody told me growing old was going to be this much fun. You know....aching bones, failing eyesight, thinning hair, jelly bladders(as opposed to jelly blubbers).

Life's a ball aint it...wouldn't be dead for quids!


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Lynn
< Date: 19-Jan-98 >

YOU are going to teach ME how to SPELL?

Harrumph!


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Ray
< Date: 19-Jan-98 >

Save your harumphing for the novel, lynn.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Fran
< Date: 20-Jan-98 >

I want to see the movie!


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Alex
< Date: 20-Jan-98 >

Ohmygod, youse guys are really creative.

I was busy with my daughter's last weekend before returning to Rutgers (we needed to do all the good mother-daughter stuff like shopping & lunch & talking 'til four in the morning) and I can't believe how much I missed. I was feeling lonely and she's only been gone not even a day and reading the novel had me rolling on the floor.

I compliment you all !


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Mollie the sad
< Date: 20-Jan-98 >

I am never one to sit on a grievance for very long. I get it all out very rapidly then it does not bug me any more. Personally, I feel disappointed that the novel was ended the way it was by Rhonda choosing to do so.

Now Rhonda, in fairness to you, there may have been a pre-decided cutoff date which I missed and if that is the case I heartily apologise to you.

But, to me, the fun of being on this chat line, and specifically taking part in the novel writing was the spontaneity of opening up the thread and seeing who had said what and what path the story was taking.

I think there has to be, at least for me to be comfortable with continuing to contribute to novel writing(and you can all tell me to go to hell if I'm out of line), some parameters for this sort of activity.

For example, ,maybe novel writing, like the Dead Pool , could have a specific cut off date i. e. Starts Sunday night finishes the following Sunday morning or something like that.

Should there be a novelmaster/mistress who oversees the closing(probably not necessary).?

It gets back to the discussion we had a few weeks ago about our anonymity and the fact that we do surrender a lot of our personal idiosyncracies to the world on this chatline. For my part, I have to feel that there is a mutual respect for all our rights.

Frankly Rhonda, I'm surprised at your mention of agent, publishing etc. What are you suggesting? Do you feel you came off badly in the novel? We did, each one of us, give certain liberties to the others to form their opinions of us be they true or false. But we also had the opportunity to refute their contributions(until it was so abruptly ended at least) if we didn't like what was being said. In my opinion that is where the democracy of the whole thing came into play...and I love democracy.

My main concern now is that it seems that there is developing a certain hostility from you Rhonda, towards me and that it is getting just a little bit personal.

I remember a few weeks ago you blasted Lynn for mucking around with the music & graphics. Well maybe the fact that your computer whacked out annoyed you. Personally, I loved what was being done. But hell, when we play on the web we take the risk of potential disasters from time to time.

And, as for publishing the novel, we all realise don't we that we would not be able to do a damn thing if anyone did decide to (though why they would want to beats me)!

IN OTHER WORDS WE TAKE RISKS ON THE WEB!

I like this chat group very much because of the free & easy manner of it and the friendliness of the majority of the people I chat with. I do not want to get on here and become a whipping person for anyone who is feeling bad with the world.

So gang, that's me and the way I feel. If anyone would like to tell me to pedal back to Bondi you can do it privately without boring the chat group or what the hell, berate me publicly, it would't be the first time and certainly won't be the last.

Aussie cheers to youse all!

kirbywil@bigpond.com


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Lynn
< Date: 20-Jan-98 >

Mollie, give me a few, then check e mail. L


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Lynn
< Date: 20-Jan-98 >

Done


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Ray
< Date: 20-Jan-98 >

Mollie, take it easy! There's no need to freak out over this! I don't think Rhonda's been hostile to you. She's been sarcastic, no doubt, but so have we all. I've taken the purported "feud" between you as a good-natured "in" joke, not true hostility.

And even if she has at times gotten a little uppitty, ahhh, so what. Everybody gets cranky now and again. I think, if you look back at what you've posted, the same could be applied to you. We all love each other here and I think any quarrels that take place should be looked at like family tiffs. Trust in each other, and we can get through anything.

But to avoid hurt feelings, how about we use this thread to comment and make plans for the other thread. That way, we can take a "vote" on crucial subjects like when to end the darn thing.

I also think you're missing the sarcasm about the purported "book deal." No one would rightly suggest we take this to a publisher. It's just a way for us to have fun.

Lighten up, Moll Doll. Don't take things so seriously or you're likely to have a stroke.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Fran
< Date: 20-Jan-98 >

Mollie!

It is what it is. Please don't be so upset!

I think one of the problems with communicating at such a long distance is that we are without the benefit of actually being able to physically HEAR one another. Sometimes it's not so much what someone says or does, but the tone in which it is said and the intention with which it is done.

Please, let's not be so hard on ourselves or one another. I'm sure that Rhonda doesn't harbor any resentment toward you (or Lynn for that matter) and we all took our share of good-natured ribbing pretty well, I thought.

In fact, I think we were all perhaps just a little surprised at how faithful, if exagerated, our charicatures were. I know I was. I didn't realize how well you people knew me! I'd hate to see that kind of self-revelation hampered by us taking offense at one another.

Whaddya say, Mollie?


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Rhonda
< Date: 20-Jan-98 >

Oh my. I didn't realize all this was going on, Molli Hari. I have been having fun. I thought you were too. Where did things take a wrong turn btw us?

To all: I appologize for ending the 1st novel without the group's permission. I just think that, like Jerry Seinfeld, we should have ended it while we were at our peak. While it was still funny and we were all ROTFL. It seemed like we were near the end, anyway - and no one had the chutzpah to end it. I have chutzpah. I ended it. I will ask next time.

-Rhonda crawling into the hole she came from


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Lynn
< Date: 20-Jan-98 >

I justed posted a note to Mollie.

I'll be honest here. I was miffed to see the story go. It had really been a little point of light for me. Maybe I need more of a life, I dunno. It was alot of fun and something I really looked forward to. I would have liked to see it play itself out a little longer and come to a more natural conclusion, but that's just my opinion. I was also surprised that no one thought to override Rhonda. It could have been just another fit.

One of the keys of good of storytelling is conflict resolution. This also applies to friendship, even cyberfriendship. People have different kinds of personalities and sometimes they clash. There's nothing wrong with that. The key is to be able to work around the areas where personalities don't fit smoothly.

So, we will go on with a new story. I was glad that another one was started.

I think Ray's idea is a good one. We can plan here and write there. It will avoid conflict.

So... can we kiss and make up?


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Rhonda
< Date: 20-Jan-98 >

I have to admit to you guys that around midnight, last night, I said to Mike, "Half the ppl are gonna hate me and the other half are gonna canonize me."

Can we move on now?

note to Ray: canonize:vb can/on/ized - to declare an officially recognized saint; GLORIFY, EXALT i am sorry

:-'Rhonda


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Mollie - feeling better all the time
< Date: 20-Jan-98 >

...Smooooooooooooooooooch!

But I reserve the right to mourn over NovelOne for a little while.

Re the publishing issue:

more likely, some Psych professor at Harvard or wherever is rubbing his/her hands together laughing all the way to the lecture room with a nifty piece of true life drama to submit to the vulture apprentices for ripping to shreds in true psychoanalytical thoroughness.

te da, te dum, la la la oh what can I do, I'm so crazy about you?


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Mollie almost fully recovered her equilibrium
< Date: 20-Jan-98 >

Could I make a counter suggestion to Ray's that we keep the Novel line clear of housekeeping issues and use this 'literary criticisms' line for the nitty gritty of the ebb and flow of the writing efforts?


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Ray
< Date: 20-Jan-98 >

Counter suggestion? Mollie, that WAS my suggestion.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Fran
< Date: 20-Jan-98 >

Either that, or we'll just keep hearing voices!


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Ray
< Date: 21-Jan-98 >

Sorry sweet, I was in mourning this morning . Could not read straight my eyelids were heavy with salty tears. I scatted instead of reading as I should have been working at real work. Comprehension down dramatically.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Fran
< Date: 21-Jan-98 >

Ray, what's up, buddy?


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Ditto
< Date: 21-Jan-98 >

For those who do not capice italiano: 'stunod' is donuts backward. It means stupid.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Ray
< Date: 21-Jan-98 >

HEY! That wasn't my post!! Whose pretending to be me? I'm putting my money on the overreacting Aussie!


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Irish Girl
< Date: 21-Jan-98 >

Whoa! Not a good decision on my part to skip this thread the last few days! I didn't realize y'all were in here, having such interesting conversations.

MOLLY & RHONDA - IMHO the situation got blown out of proportion. As I have said in my previous post, I am a fan of moving on to bigger & better things, etc. etc. Y'all have great talents - them to good use (and if my continuous use of y'all bothers y'all, let me know)! I think Rhonda had the foresight to end something that was really going nowhere (I went back & reread it all this morning and come on, you have to admit that it was not flowing well). Sure, there were some EXTREMELY funny posts, but it was not flowing either in the right or wrong direction.

It was a TRIAL run! TRIAL runs are not guaranteed to make everyone happy, but rather to see if we can work together as a team. Ok, I will stop my motivational crap now.

I concur with Ray re: using here to straighten things out. (BTW Ray, we need a new WIMMIN thread & I thought perhaps you would like to take this great honor?).

WAZZA/WARREN - parenthesis are you friend, do not fear then. As you may have noticed I am a great fan of them (as well as run on sentences).

Um ok, so I am done now.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Crystal
< Date: 21-Jan-98 >

I think this one is going okay. Maybe if we let things move i different irections and then bring it all together, it will work.

I love STUNODS!


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Mollie
< Date: 21-Jan-98 >

Ray,

Yes big buddy, Mollie made a boo boo! Post re tear filled eyes was to Ray not from Ray. Sorry!

But please note:

one thing I never do purposely (occasional acts of stupidity excepted) is post under another's name not even in Novels.. It is a given that I have a big mouth, but such is my nature that I always endeavour to put my own foot in my own mouth.

Here's lookin at ya babe!


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Passer-by
< Date: 21-Jan-98 >

Just passing by and noticed your "novel" efforts.

Good job, but I must say that I would find it difficult to contribute. Since you all seem to have been chatting away for a while, it seems to me like a lot (of the jokes in the novel) are "insider" info, and as a random visitor I feel I would be intruding on a private party.

Just a suggestion, but maybe the next tome should be less about fictional variations on yourselves, so that anybody will feel comfortable contributing. Keep up the good work.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Rhonda
< Date: 21-Jan-98 >

Mollie,

Since you publicly beraded me yesterday, can we publicly "make-up" today? I'm still waiting for 'CLOSURE' on this issue. I feel shunned. And you still keep bringing up your mourning over NOVEL ONE. Is it over? I state publicly that I do not harbor, nor have I ever harbored any resentment towards you. I was just having fun. Do you acknowledge my statement? I am unsure where we stand.

{{{{{hugs}}}}}}

-Rhonda


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Mollie
< Date: 21-Jan-98 >

Sure, why not. I guess there is just something in our personalities which grates each upon the other. I feel a little bit overwhelmed by your...what is the right word, power, authority, your sheer ability to run in and need to absolutely control the situation...I don't know. It's probably because I am an outsider with my own idiosyncracies and you seem to personally know some of the other guys who seem not to be put out by your 'fun'cybermanner. Even the fact that you are trying to force me into publicly forgiving you irks me. Why not just ignore me? Who am I that I am bugging you so? I am a simple nobody at the other end of the earth, no big threat!

I cannot believe I am having a cybertiff!

I noticed Irish Girl talked about 'team spirit' and I wasn't going to comment but...Nah, I'm not going to get into it. I've got enough shute going on down here and who needs it.

Rhonda, let's just agree to disagree.

Passer By: You are right. I felt at somewhat of a disadvantage in not knowing all of the insider gossip but I hopped in and had a go, not without probably offending a few people here and there. It's like a lot of things, the situation can be fun for a time but there is the potential for it to get out of hand.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Rhonda
< Date: 21-Jan-98 >

Power? Authority?? You obviously don't know me. And there is something to be said for not seeing facial expressions and tone on these postings, because, quite frankly Mollie I feel hurt, humiliated and depressed whenever I visit LocalSource now. It all changed with YOUR post yesterday. I was having fun, like everyone else, or so I thought. If there was a percieved sense of power on my part it was in your mind. Just because I said "THE END" on that damned novel didn't mean that it had to end if you or anyone else disagreed. Geez...you took that way too seriously, Moll. Thanks for ruining what little joy I had in my life. For a short time this was an escape from my child-less, boring hum-drumm life. Thank You Very Much Mollie From Down Under for your compassion. Thank you for seeing that this POWERFUL, Authoritarian who GRATES on you has feelings too. CYA


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Mollie
< Date: 21-Jan-98 >

OK Rhonda, you win!


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Dee
< Date: 21-Jan-98 >

Hey, come on ladies! This is silly. I don't see where all this is coming from. Maybe it's none of my business, since it's between U 2, but since it's going on here in public, you leave yourselves open for comment.

Knock it off, will 'ya? Really!

Want my take? I'm going to give it whether you want it or not: I think the two of you are really very much alike. I think you, Mollie, are percieveing something that isn't really there. I think you, Rhonda, are feeling a bit sorry for yourself.

Rhonda's right, Mollie. ANYONE could have just gone on with it if they had wanted to, even you. If you felt she was out of line, you could have changed it. Authority exists to be challenged. Maybe this is only a small picture of something you have trouble with on a larger scale. I know you do! Authority bugs the $#it out of you, and more often than you'd like, you're not in a position to challenge it safely.

I think Rhonda has done all she can to make amends. She's frustrated and angry because you can't let it go.

Rhonda, I think you're taking it much too seriously too. Don't be so down on yourself. I don't believe your life is as bad as all that. You'd be a different person if it were. Even if Mollie is mad at you, how many of us here are not? Buck up!

I think it would be really sad if either of you took off into cyberspace over this. It's silly.

IMHO


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Fran
< Date: 21-Jan-98 >

This sux.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Lynn
< Date: 21-Jan-98 >

Gee, was it so long ago that folks were dropping in here to tell us that we had a great thing going, engaging in intelligent conversation, etc. etc.?

How the mighty have fallen. We are human afterall.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Ray
< Date: 21-Jan-98 >

You two need to relax and readjust. As I've said before, we are all one big, not-always-happy family here. We all have our strengths and our weaknesses. We are naturally going to have our disagreements. I've had them with both of you. Rhonda, you remember our little spat over the whole "snip, snip" issue. Well, I felt pretty crappy about some of the things you said to me, too. But I can forgive you and you should forgive Mollie.

And Mollie, Rhonda is a sweet person with a heart of gold. I know she never meant to REALLY insult you. She's sarcastic. She and I have similar senses of humor, so I understand where she's coming from. You both should learn to forgive and forget, 'cuz this is really a bummer for the rest of us to watch.

As Sidnei would say, "a hug to all." Okay?


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Fran
< Date: 22-Jan-98 >

Conflict resolution, ladies, does not mean going away in a huff. I expect you to work on this. I want to see some progress by the time I get home tonight.

I am the oldest and the 'mother' of this group, and I SAID SO.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Irish Girl
< Date: 22-Jan-98 >

more ramblings from the peanut gallery....

I won't even give over to who said what, but it really made me sad. Statements were made between you 2 that I both agreed/disagreed with. (i know y'all picture me sitting on the fence for life)

The olive branch was extended. You choose whether to take it or snap it in half. Keep in mind though, that whatever you choose will probably affect the rest of us. I for one would be sad to see either/both of you go.

IMHO I agree with Dee - Rhonda & Mollie are very much alike. In my own experiences, I have found that the people who are most like myself (in the way of personality, likes/dislikes, values, morals, etc.) are people that I usually get on great with at the beginning of the friendship. Somewhere around the middle of the friendship, things will take a wrong turn & the friendship will end. A few years ago, I made the decision to change this streak in my life and it has worked out for the best. I have wonderful friends in my life now.

WE ARE ALL GROWN-UPS - LET US START ACTING THAT WAY PLEASE! IF NOT FOR YOURSELVES, FOR THE SANITY OF THE REST OF US!


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Nora
< Date: 22-Jan-98 >

Mollie, I just read your post to WBII. Don't you see what you're doing? You've accused Rhonda of being authoritarian in ending the first one, and now you're insisting on doing the same to the second.

This is NOT group therapy. It was nothing more than lighthearted, adult fun.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Mollie
< Date: 22-Jan-98 >

Sorry Nora


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Mollie
< Date: 22-Jan-98 >

Gremlins again. to continue

Sorry Nora, I wasn't quite sure where to put my post. Maybe this thread would have been better. But I still feel a little concerned that, in adult 'fun' I seem to have the ability to go for the jugular without meaning to . I have to work on this.

Meanwhile Rhonda,

Don't feel depressed. Think about coming back on line. I didn't mean to offend you. You must have just got me at the wrong moment which I'm sure you'll agree can happen to us all.

My heartfelt apologies to all watching there is nothing worse than standing on the sidelines not knowing how to remedy the situation. but maybe we have all learned a little about relationships, even cyber-ones. I certainly have. I just hope this does not snowball.

My final comment on this is that it is hard to have a cyber-relationship because the parameters are a touch unknown which can be especially difficult across cultures let alone in the same culture. I think only time will tell whether this tiff can be overcome. I am tempted to opt out but personally I think it would be good to see if a new and better cyber-relationship can exist between at least Rhonda and myself. I must admit I feel as if I am walking on a million eggshells cracking every damn one of them as I go.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Irish Girl
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

Well now I am totally confused!

Molly - in your post on writers block II it sounds as if you were blithely dismissing us (and I took it as most of us felt the back of your hand).

Now in your post above you want to try again (make up your mind already!), saying you never meant to "hurt" Rhonda. Granted, Rhonda may have taken your original post a little too literally/seriously, but you have to admit that you were harsh.

I for one (and I somehow don't think I am alone) just wish you would move beyond this whole dramatic scene & get on with the writer's block! If you cannot, perhaps it is wiser for you to go.

I am not, by any means, trying to tell you what do to. I wish you would stay as I have enjoyed your writing tremendously, but it is getting more and more difficult to close my eyes to what is going on here. The threads are getting larger & larger (i.e. more difficult to access) with what I believe is hashing & rehashing the same old stuff.

Please Molly and by extension, Rhonda, we love ya both , but let us MOVE ON!


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Ray
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

Where IS Rhonda, by the way? She hasn't posted lately and I'm afraid she's left us.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Irish Girl
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

Ex-Mayor - I finally sent ya that email I have been promising.

Now, I just hope you have not changed your email address!


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Rhonda Hemmingway
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

Calling all writers! Opinions please....

Continue with Novel 2?

Start Fresh with a New Novel?

If so, new topic ideas?

Same characters (which are characatures of ourselves) or

Completely different fictictional characters?

Something to ponder...

- Rhonda


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Fran
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

Let's start fresh.

Fictional characters.

(Political jerks from the other threads would be fun, ut we'd never get away with it!)


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Rhonda
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

Can I spell tonight or what?!?

"fictictional"?? What was I thinking?!? 20 lashes with a wet noodle for me :-)


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Crystal
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

How about a bit of an outline? An on-line out-line?


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Fran
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

I dropped my B. Here, let me pick it up.

I sew. I could do a hem-line outline.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Rhonda
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

Ok, gals...good ideas...fictional characters, outline...good

topics? Do we have any ideas?

Murder Mystery Murder Mystery Time Period Piece Drama Comedy ?????What shall we write about?


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Crystal
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

We need:

the protagonist

character development

the purpose

the conflict

the resolution

See, I don't go to school for nothin'!


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Fran
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

Three cheers for Bloomfield High!

Okay... I thought of a period piece, but that's kinda hard. Takes researh.

Murder mystery is good. I like that.

Our hero/ine?


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Rhonda
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

Crystal...your parents must be so proud!


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Fran
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

WHAT is researh? Geez Louise! I think I need a battery in this damn keyboard. I've been dropping letters all day.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >C
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

Batteries only last me about two months. You should get a wired keyboard. They're alot better. But if you're laying in bed eating popcorn, the wire might get in the way.

I think the protagonist should be a woman. It works for 90% of the top authors.

PS thank you!


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Alex
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

Now I know I have a slow modem!. How did you guys post so fast?

Crystal, you should do well in your freshman English Comp class next year.

I like a murder mystery, too. Who should we kill? (Alex chuckles fiendishly.)


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Fran
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

Murder mystery, female protagonist. Comedy or drama? Your call Rhonda.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Rhonda
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

Hmmmmmm...

How about this for a twist...

A female ghost as the protagonist? That should get us out of a writing bind or two...

WHaddya think?


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Rhonda
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

Comedy or Drama???

We seem to be adept at the comedy part. Why fix what aint broke I always say.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Crystal
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

Hey Alex!

WebTV doesn't suck as bad as some people think.

Our heroine should be confronted with a murder and her task will be to solve it. Yes. So, who gets the ax? Her boyfriend? Employer? An old uncle who left her a fortune?


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Fran
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

Comedy. Murder Mystery.

A female ghost must solve HER OWN murder???


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Rhonda
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

AHHHHH! That's good, Crystal...But if we make her a ghost then the fun will be in getting her to help a mortal solve the crime. Kinda like the movie, 'Ghost', now that I think about it. Shucks! Its an old cliche. I suck at this.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Crystal
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

Okay. How's this:

A & B are in an "accident". A is killed. B survives.

B is determined to bring A back because he/she is convinced that it was no accident.

A doesn't want to help, because being dead is a blast and he/she can't be bothered with earthly things anymore.

What do you think?


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Alex
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

Cliches are ok. Think of Romeo and Juliet. How many times has that been done & redone & re-re-done.

Aye and it's the telling of the tale as my Irish grandmother used to say.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Fran
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

Alex, where are you?

Crystal, what was the page you were trying to put in a link for before? Is it your homepage?

This is good, WIMMIN.

So, B goes through trials & tribulations trying to involve A in the mystery. Oijah (how do you spell wee-gee?) Boards, seances, all kinds of occult stuff. (Warren & Dee should be good at this kind of thing!)


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Rhonda
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

Good, We got

Protagonist

Purpose

Conflict

We are missing:

Resolution

Character Development


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Alex
< Date: 23-Jan-98 >

Gotta go! Teenager urgently needs telephone line to discuss tomorrows' plans.

See you.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Crystal
< Date: 24-Jan-98 >

www.localsource.com/they.asp

NOT my homepage, but my page. I was bored. What can I tell you. I think it's funny.

So... A & B finally get it together and begin to solve the mystery.

Along comes C, a new romantic interest...


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Crystal
< Date: 24-Jan-98 >

www.localsource.com/they.asp

NOT my homepage, but my page. I was bored. What can I tell you. I think it's funny.

So... A & B finally get it together and begin to solve the mystery.

Along comes C, a new romantic interest...


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Crystal
< Date: 24-Jan-98 >

www.localsource.com/they.asp

NOT my homepage, but my page. I was bored. What can I tell you. I think it's funny.

So... A & B finally get it together and begin to solve the mystery.

Along comes C, a new romantic interest...


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Crystal
< Date: 24-Jan-98 >

www.localsource.com/they.asp

NOT my homepage, but my page. I was bored. What can I tell you. I think it's funny.

So... A & B finally get it together and begin to solve the mystery.

Along comes C, a new romantic interest...


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Crystal
< Date: 24-Jan-98 >

www.localsource.com/they.asp

NOT my homepage, but my page. I was bored. What can I tell you. I think it's funny.

So... A & B finally get it together and begin to solve the mystery.

Along comes C, a new romantic interest...


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Crystal
< Date: 24-Jan-98 >

www.localsource.com/they.asp

NOT my homepage, but my page. I was bored. What can I tell you. I think it's funny.

So... A & B finally get it together and begin to solve the mystery.

Along comes C, a new romantic interest...


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Fran
< Date: 24-Jan-98 >

The child is stuck in the Twilight Zone!

I checked it out, Crystal. It's hysterical!


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Fran
< Date: 24-Jan-98 >

I think character development will take care of itself. That'll be the real fun part.

How shaLL we resolve it?

Should we have a time limit?

A designated solver?


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Rhonda
< Date: 24-Jan-98 >

I like your style, Crystal. I've always kidded around about getting a round tuit for years. Believe it or not my Dad actually has one! He used to toss it at me all the time cause I was a huge procrastinator - well, still am.

Are you ok??? Your record is skipping


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Fran
< Date: 24-Jan-98 >

I didn't mean solver. I meant ender.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Rhonda
< Date: 24-Jan-98 >

I gotta go, girlies. Will pick this up tomorrow.

Nitey Nite

-Rhonda


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Crystal
< Date: 24-Jan-98 >

Twilight Zone, no kidding. That was strange. I kept getting this message that LocalSource was too busy to use, so I kept reentering. Then I got booted out completely. Sorry.

A time limit would be a good idea. If we start it tonight we could agree to end it, maybe Tuesday? That would give everybody a shot at it.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Fran
< Date: 24-Jan-98 >

Let's leave it for the morning.

Nighty night all.


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Ray
< Date: 24-Jan-98 >

Anybody still up? Or didja guys ALL go to sleep? I just got home (it's early still, for me, only 1 a.m.)


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Fran
< Date: 24-Jan-98 >

Awww! We shoulda waited up 4U! You didn't miss us by much!


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Lynn
< Date: 25-Jan-98 >

This is alot harder than before. It's not as easy to write about strangers.

If this is supposed to be comedy, I hope someone has some ideas on how to make it funny ~ quick!


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Fran
< Date: 26-Jan-98 >

I like challenges. Next?


< Subject: RE: Literary Criticisms >
< From: >Crystal
< Date: 26-Jan-98 >

Is 'synopsized' a word????